[Dream] Drums - sampled? - Sound Forge

[Doofus McFluoro]

Yeah we are back to triggering through vst's though and that wasnt what I
was talking about.  I was litteraly talking about loading the samples
straight into an audio track (or several audio tracks).  You have to have a
fat PC to do this simply becuase you end up neediong a lot of channels, but
it is being done this way by quite a lot of the pro's nowadays.

Why do I think its better doing it this way?  Well its quicker than mapping
everything out in a sampler for a start.  Its also easier to manipulate
individual samples... particulatly when mapping FX to certain portions of
the of audio.

For instance if you wish to apply inserts or modify ony one hat out of (say)
every four. In a sampler you would have to apply the effect to all the notes
played from the sampler... whereas I can choose individual notes.
Graphicaly its easier as again I can modify note leangth of any individual
notes (reverse, stretch, eq, pitch etc) and select 'create new version' so
that it doesnt affect all the copies.  Its also so much easier to track the
percussion if you can see it laid out in front of you on the same screen you
use to write.  Finaly it is much easier to mix down.

Really what is the use of using a sampler to trigger your samples?  Unless
you want to trigger them live from a keyboard I cant see the point.  Just a
lot more fiddling around and I am unsure of what the advantages could be.


On 3/29/07, Kudos <kudos.dream at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> Joshua Tinnin wrote:
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> On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 01:02:06PM -0400, andrei.henry at utoronto.ca wrote:
> ...
>
>
>  I know someone (Doofus?) said they liked Reason for controlling drums.
> Any other opinions? All I have is Cubase SX 3 so far, but am buying
> something this weekend ... not sure, maybe Reason, maybe Sound Forge,
> maybe some VST soft synths ...
>
>
> use a softsampler in SX to trigger your previously-found drum samples.
>
>
> OK, I know this is going to sound stupid, but how do you do that? I am a
> little familiar with drum maps, but I don't know how to trigger a sample
> with Cubase. All I've ever done in the past is copy the sample to
> different locations in an audio track. And I've read through the whole
> manual and can't seem to figure it out ...
>
> - jt
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> That's when a VST sampler comes in handy...Halion, Sampletank, Mach 5 and
> the Native Instruments one, oh there's just loads, even free.  I don't think
> you can 'trigger' a sample by midi any other way.  Hit F11 to bring up the
> Instrument Panel, load the VST sampler in there, and then you load the
> samples into it, mappin them to keys in the sampler.  Then you create a MIDI
> track, point the output of it to the sampler, create a midi part and
> draw/record your drum patterns in there.  To add VST effects you're adding
> them to the sampler's output channel(s).  Halion's good because from version
> 3 you can specify how many stereo and mono channels it has (and you can have
> LOADS).
>
> Olly
>
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