[Dream] Drums - sampled? - Sound Forge

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UnderTow wrote:
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> This is quite long for a psytrance kick. The kicks I usualy use (samples) 
> will be shorter than 200 ms. Sometimes even as short as 100 ms from start 
> to finish. So try making the last section shorter if you want a psy kick.
>   
400ms or even up to 600ms is just the length of the gernerated sample.  
The length of it as it is played in my track is shorter, as I normally 
trigger it in Halion with shortest release time, I set tthe actual 
length from the note length in the MIDI part which triggers it.  Also, 
as my kick starts from very high frequencies the start tends to sound 
very loud so I slap on a parametric EQ on the Halion output and reduce 
the top end by a few dB (high-shelving). 

Recently I've discovered that WaveArts Trackplug (which I've been using 
for EQ and compression) seems to ADD a trailing tone with a muich longer 
release time than any that I specified,  which can be heard for quite 
some time after the sample has finished playing.  This tends to be more 
noticable when the compressor is adding gain, and even more when the 
'brickwall' feature is turned on and the low frequency raised to 40Hz or 
more where it is more noticably cutting out frequencies.  I don't 
understand why it has to 'add' this extra sound - and I want the 
crispest silence in-between my kicks!  I think I should stop using this 
plugin...it looks nice and seems really easy to use though.

> These days I just wade through my collection of over 3000 kick samples and 
> pick one that suites my mood at the moment and tweak it with a bit of EQ 
> and/or compression. I really couldn't be bothered to make a kick drum 
> sound from scratch...
>   

Are you sure your 3000 kicks are worth keepin? What's the sample rate of 
these?  My only reason for generating my own is to have 48Khz wavs for 
my project (I could have done 96Khz if I wanted), but just for the sake 
of having get some extra clarity in the original sample.  I haven't got 
any 3rd-party kick samples better than 16-bit 44.1Khz wavs, and the 
'crisp' end of these just isn't clear enough.


Olly