[Dream] Drums - sampled? - Sound Forge

[Doofus McFluoro]

Uhuh.. Kudos we talked about the lenghth of the kicks in the studio the
other day... remember I chopped the tail off after listening through the
phones?  I think this could be why some of your mixes are a bit muddy
sounding.

Having said that I remember in one of your tunes you are using the tail to
fill the pallett as you had a really roland/retro sounding bassline going
that would have been too thin without.  But it did sound kinda techno/psy to
me so maybe thats deliberate cos you dont want t write typical psy.


On 3/27/07, UnderTow <undertow at trance.org> wrote:
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> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Kudos wrote:
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> > The kicks that I made were all quit similar (about 60 of them) as they
> > were made from one session of using the signal generator tool and I only
> > wanted to make one particular kind of kick tone.  They're just pure
> > sines, rapidly falling in pitch from between 9Khz and 14Khz down to
> > around 120Hz to 180Hz over about 10 or 20 ms, then slower down to around
> > 70Hz in around 80ms, then down to 20 or 30Hz in 300-400ms with a
> > fadeout.
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> This is quite long for a psytrance kick. The kicks I usualy use (samples)
> will be shorter than 200 ms. Sometimes even as short as 100 ms from start
> to finish. So try making the last section shorter if you want a psy kick.
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> > I'm fairly happy with the result, but I'd like to make a
> > different upper-frequency 'tap' to the kick as it sounds a bit too much
> > like a ZAP.  I never considered mixing noise or any other waveform into
> > the start of the kick so I will give that a try next time.  Does anyone
> > know if there's a maximum frequency a kick should sound at?
>
> Well the innitial transient will probably have some pretty high
> frequencies in it (say up to 3-5Khz) but after that it is mainly low
> frequencies. I havn't made my own kicks in years so I can't remember
> exactly what starting points I used.
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> These days I just wade through my collection of over 3000 kick samples and
> pick one that suites my mood at the moment and tweak it with a bit of EQ
> and/or compression. I really couldn't be bothered to make a kick drum
> sound from scratch...
>
> UnderTow
>
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