[Dream] Prodigy - Charly

GhregOnEarth ghreg at phosphene.org
Wed Feb 28 20:03:45 PST 2007


Could very well something in the Juno series....there was some
crossover between the circuitry behind the synths from what I
understand. Some of the sound was comparable to in a sort of
broad sense (at least I think the 101 sound closer to the Junos
than the jupiters).


The Junos could stack their oscillators in
Unison....also the some of the Junos had onboard chorus that
was very phat (and very noisy).



On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Stuntman wrote:

> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:34:36 +0200
> From: Stuntman <stuntman at grecian.net>
> To: Psytrance producers' forum <dreamweavers at enabled.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dream] Prodigy - Charly
> 
> Now after listening to Charly again after all those years I can see why
> Cujo has a hard time recreating the sound.
> It sounds like something old and analog but it's either heavily chorused
> or its played in unison mode (which rules out the 101).
> At first I thought there's a band pass filter at work but then I noticed
> the stereo image is pretty wide so its most probably chorused.
>
> Stuntman
>
> Doofus McFluoro wrote:
>> The SH-101 didnt have presets so unfortunately I dont think that can
>> be it.  It did however have its own special sound.  I used to have a
>> couple of these units and I cant remember getting that specific sound
>> but it certainly has an SH 101 feel to it. It was very good at fat and
>> crispy. I only regret not having had the chance to write Psy trance
>> with them as psytrance didnt exist then. This was back at the begining
>> of time when we were just getting used to something called acid house
>> in the UK.
>>
>> You should (theoreticaly... dont ask me how I am crap at designing
>> sounds... I just tend to find nice ones while I am fiddling) be able
>> to do this (or at least something similar) on another synth with the
>> right amount of patience. The SH101 was hardly a technological marvel
>> (well Ok it was at the time).  Its a pretty simple synth.
>>
>> i'm thinking have a go on the Superwave P8 (download from KVR
>> http://www.kvraudio.com/get/708.html) Its a pretty simple (but
>> nice) analogue mock-up (and its grey.. wrong shade tho) and fairly
>> similar in design to the sh101.
>>
>> The Charley sound is definetly using portamento and dont forget these
>> were mono synths so make sure you are in mono mode. That sound ( it
>> seems to me) is more about the way it is played than anything so maybe
>> you should try to loop the same sequence as in the original and then
>> tweak the saws... portamento time etc
>>
>> On 2/28/07, *Cujo* <dream at cujorius.dk <mailto:dream at cujorius.dk>> wrote:
>>
>>     yea well, it is a saw allright , but can't seem to recreate it.
>>     But i have been trying to recreate that "specific" sound for a
>>     while, but can't.
>>
>>     it seems to me. it could have been a preset on some synth, maybe
>>     an SH-101 , that "everybody" in the old techno business just
>>     ripped completely?
>>
>>     Doofus McFluoro skrev:
>>>     Isnt that sound simply saw based sound?  - available on all VA
>>>     synths... (or do I make 2 faux pas in one night?).
>>>
>>>     I suspect the second to be the truth by the way as I cant imagine
>>>     that Cujo doesnt know what a saw sounds like. That wasnt sarcasm
>>>     by the way. For those of you who know me I felt i'd better point
>>>     that out.
>>>
>>>     Hmmm...This is good stuff im smoking... its making me overcompensate.
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 2/28/07, *Doofus McFluoro* <doofus.mcfluoro at gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:doofus.mcfluoro at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Sorry didnt read the title..
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 2/28/07, *Stuntman* <stuntman at grecian.net
>>>         <mailto:stuntman at grecian.net> > wrote:
>>>
>>>             If you mean the pitch bended thingy, I'd guess an SH-101?
>>>             I don't know if he had much gear back then...
>>>             It is said that the first few tracks he wrote were all
>>>             made only with a
>>>             W-30.
>>>             I guess he bought more gear after 'what evil lurks'...
>>>
>>>             Stuntman
>>>
>>>             Cujo wrote:
>>>            > Hey.
>>>            >
>>>            > anyone knows which synth is used to make that very
>>>             destinct technoish
>>>            > lead sound?
>>>            > we have discussed it here, me and some friends..?
>>>            >
>>>            > -C
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